I hated cables but now I love them
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Thursday March 21, 2024
David Mellor
David Mellor is CEO and Course Director of Audio Masterclass. David has designed courses in audio education and training since 1986 and is the publisher and principal writer of Adventures In Audio.
@palogazo3947: I am glad you do. Without them you would need to train and teach the electrons to jump through air and hoops.
@AudioMasterclass replies to @palogazo3947: Don't worry. Phil's working on that.
@Shalmaneser1: How many coils does it take to create magnetic inductance?
@AudioMasterclass replies to @Shalmaneser1: I think the answer is one, or maybe less than that. Hopefully an electronics expert will weigh in with the correct answer.
@jimhines5145: I would be compelled to cut into one and examine what is under the sheathing. What is inside that makes them work so well? I would think some braided stainless steel may be in place to block one of the poles...or weaken it at least.
@atoptip6193: Virginia Woolf (I think) once said, something like, “People do not appreciate how much sunshine £100 a year can buy you.” I agree, if you stay away from those things others want so badly. This is my list so far. Feel free to add:
Turntable
Cables
DAC
Espresso maker
Football team
American football team
Basketball team
Vintage Ferrari
Vintage Alfa-Romeo
Yacht
Boat
Microphones
@pablohrrg8677: Yesterday I watched a video where someone tested a speaker's crossover with a magnet, because ferromagnetic materials are the nastiest and evil things you can put on a music playing set up.
Of course yours only transmit digital data, but there are audiophiles that say that digital audio signals should be treated as analog, and not doing so would degrade sound quality (it could if you are losing data but in extreme cases)
@AudioMasterclass replies to @pablohrrg8677: The funny thing is is that digital cables do actually transmit an analogue signal. The analogue signal carries the ones and zeros. Too much for a brief comment reply but maybe a topic for a future video.
@pablohrrg8677 replies to @pablohrrg8677: @@AudioMasterclass That is totally right. but it creates a whole industry of digital cables, digital signal cleaners, reclockers and so on.
@maidsandmuses: I think I would prefer audiophile cable ties 😁
@AudioMasterclass replies to @maidsandmuses: If there were such things, and I haven't (yet) checked, I'm going to say they'd be around £10 each. Maybe there'd be organic ones for £30. Maybe I'm grossly underestimating.
@maidsandmuses replies to @maidsandmuses: @@AudioMasterclass Definitely a gap in the market; perhaps best not to encourage it... 😂
@AudioMasterclass replies to @maidsandmuses: So I did take the risk. No audiophile cable ties... But apparently nylon ties can crush the cables and velcro ties are better. Here we go...@@maidsandmuses
@jimbeveridge5185: Hiya Phil, keep up the great work Couple of questions:do audiophile bats prefer Planar-magnetic or
Electrostatic tweeters? And for your friend in the natty grey tee shirt . Why , as a true audiophile , am I not permitted to use my (Yamaha HS5 )studio monitors as hifi speakers . They look nice and match my storm trooper outfit.
@athathsonty2925: It is a pity, you don't like Cables, friend. You are missing something in life. Not just Something, Everything.
For Some, Ends are everything, Means don't hold any Meaning. For Some others, the Journey is more Important, not so much reaching the Destination. Cable lovers belong to the later group.
@rpvermeulen: The unboxing music is much more than just irritating. I assume it could be easily weaponized and as such would put an end to many international conflicts. Where the ... does it come from???
@AudioMasterclass replies to @rpvermeulen: From my warped musical imagination.
@amcluesent: This is why I use Bluetooth for linking my high-end system.
@Chunksville: Loving the videos David also the list of items made me laugh too, very British humour 🙂
GROOMING - Philips 3000 nose hair trimmer
GROOMING - Nose plier
HAIR COLOUR - Just For Men
HAIR CONDITIONER -TRESemmé Silky & Smooth
@AudioMasterclass replies to @Chunksville: Thing is I use all of these, although the colour comes and goes as I feel like it. The conditioner though I only use for the videos. Saves me looking like a toilet brush sometimes.
@Chunksville replies to @Chunksville: @@AudioMasterclass 😄
@mcdk72: There is cabel health an emf hell.
@jim586: You’ll have to excuse me, but what actually is this channel actually about? 🙃
@AudioMasterclass replies to @jim586: Maybe if you follow this link you'll find out - https://www.youtube.com/@AudioMasterclass/videos
@barlow2976: If you think coiling cables is irksome try coiling my 20m H.P air line, then you'll be swearing.
@AudioMasterclass replies to @barlow2976: You know, I think I'll give that a miss.
@grahamstrahle4010: Love how DM adds his own music -- another unique delight of this channel.
@atoptip6193: Did I miss your speculation about how they always attract and never repel? Mine is this — one side of the cable is magnetized, the other side soft iron. So it is not N attracting S (or repelling N) but just the soft iron. I wonder if you folded the cable on itself some repelling may happen? Hmm…I actually do not like my own idea that much. In physics, the B and the H and the M were always very confusing.
@AudioMasterclass replies to @atoptip6193: I did manage to talk to James Clerk Maxwell via my time telephone, however he was as stumped as me.
@atoptip6193 replies to @atoptip6193: Ah, you needed to ask his audiophile brother Jimmy UR Maxell!
@davidhosmer1424: I would think that self coiling cables will never lay or hang straight. I hate when the roadie throws down the cable in coils, tangles, knots and a..holes. Like so much spaghetti. Looks bad. Looks unprofessional. Trip hazard. Oh - Aren't all mics wireless? Wireless Neumann U47 ! Thanks for the great videos
@davidhalliday7776: 1ft magnet-covered cable ... 1ft metallic-covered cable ... 1ft one foot magnetic ...
Both poles of a magnet are attracted to ferrous metal. so just alternate magnet and ferrous metal in lengths equal to the circumference of the coil.
@AudioMasterclass replies to @davidhalliday7776: You might just have it there. I said 'might'.
@MrPeeBeeDeeBee: Self coiling aka stiff cables - no thanks.
@AudioMasterclass replies to @MrPeeBeeDeeBee: This is a reasonable comment. The cables are fairly stiff but a long way off from rigid.
@DeltaJazzUK: Yeah I've been waiting all my life for these 🙄
@peanutbutterjellyjam2179: The day audiophile equipment goes wireless, bet your bottom dollar there will be a company selling audiophile grade air that will enhance your listening pleasure.
@AudioMasterclass replies to @peanutbutterjellyjam2179: I'm sorry to say that you're probably not wrong.
@TrevorDodd-ev1sx replies to @peanutbutterjellyjam2179: I seem to remember or it maybe urban myth that someone used to sell canned Scottish air to Americans to enhance their Scotch whisky.
@andymouse: What ever next ?.....cheers.
@Douglas_Blake_579: Oh look .... they've reinvented fridge magnets.
@imqqmi: I just fold cables and put a knot in them, even a crate full won't tangle. I use double sided velcro tape to manage cables. I hate analogue audio cables, they always fail. Wireless audio, you'll need 3 of everythimg. One you've lost, one has a dead battery, so you can only use a spare, if you didn't forget to bring it.
@peters7949: I would like to know why loose cables braid them selves together, if left unplugged at one end. I’m forever separating them before plugging in my Zoom 6track recorder.
@geoff37s57: If you play a Heavy Metal track will the music get stuck in the cable?
@wmrg1057: You handle that blade like you're splicing tape 😂
@AudioMasterclass replies to @wmrg1057: I have indeed spliced many a tape in my time.
@shpater: For Audio: It Seems there would be a Current flow in parallel to a magnetic field. this might affect the signal as a "strong ferro magnetic "coil (in comparison to air conducted coil) which may behave like an LPF (maybe out of the audible range?) and maybe with some "magnetic memory non linearity"" (Like in a metal core transformer).
All the above is just my feeling, I have no way to quantitate the amount of effect here, but audiophiles lift their cables from the floor will not approve such cables for use.
I gues that if this cable is good enough for USB (100's of Mega hertz than would be good enough till 100Khz for an audio signal.
@Douglas_Blake_579 replies to @shpater: Overthink much?
@grandadgamer8390: My Super Nintendo has coiling technology 😅
@toonertik: Cables.. oh me oh my.. bane of my life as well. From wiring offices with emergency standby systems.. wiring up and wax looming cables in a rather iconic mixer range (think A and B) before pcb mother boards, to being a live sound engineer and then some studio installations/re kitting.. my own very semi pro studio and now my modular.. as you say.. I just love sound. music and creation more than my.. ermmm dislike for the cables that make it all work. As far as self coiling.. no no no.. in reality, they'll never coil the way needed for one's own situation.. hook and loop all the way.. if you know the way ;-)))))
@ploppill34: audiophiles are like vegans....................the air of superiority is nauseating
@AudioMasterclass replies to @ploppill34: Oddly enough I like vegan food from the supermarket. It has to be good to please vegans. Then I add steak.
@imqqmi replies to @ploppill34: And their 'food' is nauseating as well.
@barlow2976 replies to @ploppill34: @@AudioMasterclassI ran out of my vegan 'no meat' steaks the other day and tried a real beef steak. It was delicious! I tasted quite similar to the vegan version, but just nicer. I think I'll be buying more..
@AudioMasterclass replies to @ploppill34: I'm in agreement on any kind of vegetarian or vegan meat. But give me one of their best veggie burgers by the side of my real steak and I'll wolf it down.
@EricIolo: Onto something completely different - what do you think of Bone Conduction Headphones David?
@AudioMasterclass replies to @EricIolo: I’m waiting to be sent a pair.
@pretoria701 replies to @EricIolo: @@AudioMasterclass If the results are anything like what you heat when having a cap replaced on a molar...then keep on waiting!
@zackreuter6344: Self levitating speaker cables? Phil, you are such a tease! That would be the greatest thing since those stickers that eliminate resonance from window glass. Do you have a Go Fund Me set up yet? I have cash burning a hole in my pocket.
@EricIolo: Good evening sir! Have you managed to to test the speed of data travelling through these magnetic cables? Is it slowed down by magnets? Further would the magnets interefere with the 1s and 0s? I have read that audiophiles who use digital equiptment sometimes spend considerable amounts of money on DATA cables, so is it posssible that the 1s may 'get repelled' by a 0 on occassion? My point being - I cant see these taking off for DAC users etc! They would not risk it! Lastly, I bet they would take longer to bed in too!
@bluesfish55m51 replies to @EricIolo: After the first few moments of transmission the lining of the insolation adjacent to the magnetic sides of the cable will trap a thin layer of 1’s (or zeros depending on the exposed pole) . Once coated, all data flows unharmed until there’s an interruption of the signal where the trapped 1’s are ejected and the process must begin anew.
@Lif-999: Self coiling? Self tangling more like!
I would rebrand them as self inducting cables. That should frighten Phil away.
Myself, I look forward to the advent of tachyon cables. The use of which would eradicate all possibility of noise and interference by ensuring that the signal arrives at the load
BEFORE it has been transmitted by the source.
Although there may be some timing artifacts.
@AudioMasterclass replies to @Lif-999: I mentioned tachyons in my next video. Did you miss it yet?
@Lif-999 replies to @Lif-999: My long departed Gran had all this sorted out. As evidenced by this little ditty she was known to recite:
I went to the pictures tomorrow,
and bought a front seat at the back.
Then I fell from the pit to the gallery,
and broke a front bone in my back.
Then I went round a straight crooked corner,
and I saw a dead donkey die.
So I pulled out my dagger to shoot it,
and a kipper flew out of it's eye.
Yet, Contrary then to all expectation, it was my grandad who did all the drinking!!!
@andymouse replies to @Lif-999: :)@@AudioMasterclass
@brucermarino: What audio really needs is levitating listeners. After watching most audio channels, is obvious we are not high enough! Keep up the great work and thanks!
@ac81017: If you're interested in audio /audiophile cables then you should check out these guys. I think only me and Audio Phil would understand these guys
You mentioned Ethernet cables? I'm sure this will make you blood boil. I ended up buying a 1m £2000 ethernet cable after a lot of testing.
https://youtu.be/fc80yCACkP8?si=hoPjiy8kGMWl2pc7
@AudioMasterclass replies to @ac81017: Wait till audiophiles learn about ethernet collisions.
@HeavyCrown2030: U R peddling so much I expect the sale of a Audiophile Tricycle
@rienpost: Everybody knows that Volts will only travel through cables of a certain purity with gold connectors and anti-gravity coverings which are coiled in their favourite way, providing it's not on a tuesday in a leap year. Yes, you can hear the difference, providing you ran them in at the proper temperature for the right amount of time.
@AudioMasterclass replies to @rienpost: I’m waiting for someone to comment that the magnetism in self coiling audio cables would hold the volts back.
@phrtao replies to @rienpost: 'Volts' don't travel down a cable:it is Amperes that measures the flow of current down a cable. Voltage measures a difference between two points (maybe analogous to a measurement of height in geography)
@rienpost replies to @rienpost: @@AudioMasterclass Let me look into that. ;-)
@rienpost replies to @rienpost: @@phrtao Taking a joke seriously? Seriously?
@stevengagnon4777 replies to @rienpost: @@AudioMasterclasshere's some food for thought. The signal going from one device to another is actually a power vector traveling in the electromagnetic field set up between the two devices. The cable just is the path that the electrons move in and in this part of the path is resistance and leakage to ground. Basically you want to minimize the leakage and resistance to the electrons moving back and forth (and that is not very far) so you just need to keep those "Push me Pullios" calm and orderly so they won't try and escape . So we don't want to give them a convenient exit either. That way they won't be distorting the signal very much. Physics is pretty cool 😊. That is why you want to avoid iron if possible ( transformers iron is pretty much necessary) in the signal path because it will mess the electromagnetic field. So really the cable just needs to be adequately conductive and shieled from ground. Clearly at a reasonable point the diminishing returns aren't worth the cost.
@Roof_Pizza: Make sure you buy the correct ones, one for the northern hemisphere and one for the southern hemisphere,
@christophmartin5381 replies to @Roof_Pizza: 😁🤣
@PROJECT-de9pd: You are a massive bell end
@AudioMasterclass replies to @PROJECT-de9pd: Getting more massive on a daily basis.
@marxman00: Dont worry ..Ive got a cable demagnetiser for this very purpose
@darryldouglas6004: I’m wondering when audiophiles will want cryogenic enclosures for their cables to eliminate resistance. 🧐
@AudioMasterclass replies to @darryldouglas6004: Liquid oxygen is a good choice because it cools very nicely and when it starts to boil off you can breathe it in for extra enjoyment.
@Hipyon replies to @darryldouglas6004: @@AudioMasterclassYeah you must bye oxygen free cable for the best Effect
@Lif-999 replies to @darryldouglas6004: Andre Previn was a super conductor!