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Dance Music Organisation:  It's not as simple as just compression of a high quality movies and re-encoding. Many are TS / CAM, they aren't encoded from a source file, they are recorded with a camera on a tripod and microphone in the cinema and the framerates are synchronised or just on their iPhone or using a camcorder. It's quite amazing the video quality that can be achieved nowadays using this method, it's just a shame the microphones and audio capture devices haven't improved the way visual has.

Dean replies to Dance Music Organisation: @Dance Music Organisation yeah I used to wonder how they got away with setting up a tripod and camera in their local Odeon!?

Dance Music Organisation replies to Dance Music Organisation: @Dean Yeah, there are varying qualities made and some you can hear people eating popcorn and talking or see the back of someone's head. Where others can be amazing, but I think they are obtained by someone who has a friend working at a cinema and they do a private screening for the pirates.

Dean replies to Dance Music Organisation: I remember when I used to go to that place with Betty and they sometimes had CAM recorded movies with line audio (I think they hooked their camera into an output for people with hearing difficulties or something....?).

Ivan Miasnikov:  Wow, I'm so NOT on board with this dumb AI assistant! I will unsubscribe if I see it again.. :/ Also, it all depends on what copy you download, you can find the same very movies with higher audio bit rates and quality than you get off streaming services on the same torrent websites, including uncompressed BluRay rips, you just need to know what to look for. Nice try!

Audio Masterclass replies to Ivan Miasnikov: @Ivan Miasnikov Aha, a smartarse final comment with no reference to the video content. Something tells me you're a nasty person I'm better off without. DM

Ivan Miasnikov replies to Ivan Miasnikov: @Audio Masterclass You do that! Thank you for taking your time to DM me about that, bye bye! Just make sure you fact check your source material next time. :/

Audio Masterclass replies to Ivan Miasnikov: Please just unsubscribe now. I'll make my videos any way I like. DM

eric mc:  Enough with the AI 'actor' please, too creepy lol

Waldemar la Tendresse:  Seeing a video with such statements in a channel called "Audio Masterclass" is strange at best. Either it's a hidden parody or the channel has missed its self-imposed goals this time.

Audio Masterclass replies to Waldemar la Tendresse: I make videos about whatever interests me in the moment. That's my only guide. DM

Michael Beeny:  If you are looking for the really lowest bit rate copy, say a 500mbt file then the sound will be rubbish, but this is really intended for use on a telephone. However, a copy from a Blu-ray of about 2 gbt will normally include a Dolby digital 5.1 soundtrack, often the original. This will offer good picture and sound. Obviously not as good as the original but not far off. If you want better, buy the original disc. If you can find one! So, I've heard!!

tinkerwithstuff:  My guess before listening to this... because those folks don't know much about those things and will just use presets that convert one lossy codec to another, both treating the spectrum with different strategies to leave stuff out for saving space, thus resulting in a garbled mess.
"... low bit rate" - ok, that, too.

Jelly:  What's the connection between the random thumbnail and the video title? Is the woman in the t-shirt with the silkscreen print supposed to be a pirate?.
"Why are YouTubers often bad at making thumbnails" could be the title of a video.

Jelly replies to Jelly: @Douglas Blake indeed

Douglas Blake replies to Jelly: Didn't watch the video, did you?

Michael Turner:  Some pirated movies even have full DTS 5.1 audio.

fredy gump:  So confusing...I thought that Pirates of the Carribean was really well done. It is strange that pirate movies as a genre are neglecting their audio fidelity, I thought to myself.

Steve Rodrigue replies to fredy gump: Trollololo!

Editing SECRETS revealed!:  Opening story reminded me of the film Sneakers, the scenes about which bridge and where the chip was located. "Remind me you're an honorary blind guy."
Perhaps the pirates monitored their transfer on NS-10s without the tweeters facing the wrong way. With speakers like that, how could they ever get it right?
I'm surprised Betty had the patience to let him explain codecs and bitrates, instead of presenting the h.265 documentation herself. I thought the relationship was all about her library of enormous... specification sheets to cover any subject at all, in microscopic detail.

filmnarr1:  I think I would fall in love with Betty immediately, seeing only stars and hearing the angels sing...

filmnarr1 replies to filmnarr1: @Editing SECRETS revealed! 🥰

Editing SECRETS revealed! replies to filmnarr1: And she can even tell you the exact frequency response of those angels, and their Atmos location keyframes in the heavens.

Birger Olovsson:  True that copied movies lose most in the audio-department.

Alvaro Vix:  This is wrong in all possible ways but Betty is funny haha. Why is this wrong? Because Downloaded p1r4te movies sound better than Netflix Amazon or Hulu, they weight a 3rd (if you get a great AV1 codification even better they can weight a 4th of the original) and even the Image quality is better than playing it from the site like Movies Anywhere, NF or HBO. The uploaders sometimes make a Remaster version that's cleaner in image noise than the original 80's or 90's movies Bluray. Man i understand,.. this kind of titles attract people BUT. People get shitty audio quality because they download from shitty sources.

Pheasant Plucker:  I just wish they'd start putting some kind of un-skippable warning at the start of legally purchased DVD and Blu Ray videos so that honest people who spend their hard earned cash on genuine merchandise have to sit through minutes of blood-boiling, infuriating, condescending drivel that pirating movies is just as bad as stealing a handbag or feeding a puppy to a crocodile. Having that warning removed was easily the best reason to download, or actually buy, pirated stuff - even with terrible audio.

Kalvinjj replies to Pheasant Plucker: Same with games now with Denuvo protection - often the pirated versions got better performance because of the lack of this terrible DRM system.

Emmanuel Gutierrez:  Audio Masterclass is an FBI trying to bust D/L’ers!

Emmanuel Gutierrez replies to Emmanuel Gutierrez: @Dance Music Organisation Very good point

Dance Music Organisation replies to Emmanuel Gutierrez: It's not illegal to download movies, it's illegal to supply them, that's the difference between a leacher and a seeder. It is also part of the fair use allowances under copyright protection. It would be impossible for anyone who reported on, reviewed or discussed movies for a living (or even a hobby) to be expected to purchase every single one. Home private non-commercial use is also permitted, otherwise VHS / DVD recorders would never have been allowed to be sold to the masses or the ability to pause live TV. However inviting your friends & neighbours round to watch with you, is then considered broadcasting and becomes illegal.

EgoShredder:  Don't listen to the naysayers, younger women do actually prefer older, more distinguished and experienced men. Betty knows a good thing when she hears it, and that is on very Blu Rays.

Editing SECRETS revealed! replies to EgoShredder: He just found a balanced match at -20.

Thomas Shea:  well done

Douglas Blake:  I can't admit how I know this (grin) but there are downloadable movies where the x265/aac file-compressed version is utterly indistinguishable from the original BlueRay version and at downright reasonable 2g=2hours file sizes too. David is right... you just have to find a site where the owners understand audio.

Douglas Blake replies to Douglas Blake: @Ivan Miasnikov
Oh horsepucky ... This "your system isn't good enough" mantra has been bantered around for decades now. It's old, it's tired, it's snobbish and it was never true to start with.

Ivan Miasnikov replies to Douglas Blake: If one can't tell the difference between AAC and uncompressed audio - clearly their speakers aren't good enough to reproduce uncompressed audio from BluRays, hence they can't tell a difference in quality on an OK sound system in place. You need to invest some time and money to get it right, and than all you'll want to hear is uncompressed audio from BluRays as all other compressed formats don't engage you emotionally as much. Feels like you're trying to hear vs not thinking about the sound. ;)

Kalvinjj replies to Douglas Blake: heh when I get some Jack Sparrow anime BD rips I get them all in FLAC audio

Uh uh no replies to Douglas Blake: I can confirm.

Chaotic System:  Aaaaaw. She's got a name now! How nice!

Glade Swope:  Video Pirates of the Caribbean! Arr! A VHS tape pirated to 3 generations, each in EP mode without hi-fi, would have really bad sound.

Corey Ostman:  Maybe have Betty say "avast!" next time. 😆

Grey Eagle:  I'm not to going lie, I'd go to a secret off the grid place with Betty as well, even if the audio is shitty

Editing SECRETS revealed! replies to Grey Eagle: Just make sure you have ample headroom. Wouldn't want to uncomfortably compress that pair of... stereo masters.

Jahn-Pierre Zietsman:  I had such a laugh! Love the video! Betty is hot for an A.I.

Editing SECRETS revealed! replies to Jahn-Pierre Zietsman: She's naturally a +4 on most audiophiles' VU scales.

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David Mellor

David Mellor

David Mellor is CEO and Course Director of Audio Masterclass. David has designed courses in audio education and training since 1986 and is the publisher and principal writer of Adventures In Audio.

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